The PineTalk podcast on PINE64

S02E09: Gaming on Pine64 is a Thing

Sun, 10 Jul 2022 00:00:00 +0000

Zed the editor and Porky explore the world of Linux and Open Source gaming. Porky also talks about why he won’t be getting a Steam Deck afterall…

Steam Deck: https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1675200/view/3220644827954565733

Steam Summer Sale began and boy are my arms tired: https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/steam-summer-sale-2022/

Bootlooping issues found, currently solutions being worked on: https://twitter.com/OnDeck/status/1518809743619334144?cxt=HHwWgICpncba8pMqAAAA

Steam Deck parts now available at ifixit.com: https://twitter.com/OnDeck/status/1528783641454579712?cxt=HHwWgMCg9eenqrcqAAAA

SteamOS 3.2 Update: https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1675200/view/3297210455204349335

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S02E08: So Porky Is Now a Developer...

Fri, 03 Jun 2022 00:00:00 +0000

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In this Episode Brian and Justin explore the world of Open Source Android and Open Source Nuclear Reactors. And then some real stuff.

Links and topics discussed:

https://tuxphones.com/howto-linux-as-second-wireless-display-for-linux/

https://lists.sr.ht/~mil/sxmo-announce/%3C3FV34P1BUD8B6.34I97X4SKLKHH%40yellow-orcess.my.domain%3E

https://github.com/biktorgj/pinephone_modem_sdk/releases/tag/0.6.5

https://gitlab.com/postmarketOS/pmaports/-/merge_requests/3123

https://github.com/MadameMalady/Manjaro-Waydroid-Manager

https://porkyofthepine.org/blog/rice_sxmo_sway.html

https://github.com/Raezroth/Linux-ARM-Gaming-Chroot

https://github.com/MadameMalady/PinePhone-Pro-Manjaro-Maui-Shell-Installer-MMSI/releases

https://github.com/dreemurrs-embedded/Pine64-Arch/releases/tag/20220502

https://xnux.eu/log/#067

https://dylanvanassche.be/blog/2022/bluetooth-hfp-linux-mobile/

https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/03/26/capyloon-mobile-web-based-os-works-on-pinephone-pro-librem-5-pixel-3a/

Music from Bensound.com and Zed (@itismezed)

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S02E07: Pine in a field, on a mountain, over a river

Sat, 23 Apr 2022 00:00:00 +0000

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In this episode Brian and Justin talk in length about the newly announced PINE64 line of audio products.

Links and topics discussed:

Music from Bensound.com and Zed (@itismezed), https://soundcloud.com/kevinflynnretro

Edited by Zed

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S02E06: The Community has been ACTIVE!

Sun, 06 Mar 2022 00:00:00 +0000

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In this episode Justin and Brian cover exciting community digs

Links and topics discussed:

Music from Bensound.com and Zed (@itismezed), https://soundcloud.com/kevinflynnretro

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S02E05: Talk about a dense 15 minutes

Wed, 26 Jan 2022 00:00:00 +0000

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In this episode Justin and Brian chat a bit about the PinePhone keyboard, Plasma Mobile Maui shell and more!

Links and topics discussed:

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S02E04: Behind the curtains

Tue, 28 Dec 2021 00:00:00 +0000

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In this episode Justin and Brian recorded live on Discord with the stage feature. This episode covers updates for various mobile interfaces, the MNT reform SOQuartz module adapter, the PinePhone malware, the keyboard addon availability, and more!

Links and topics discussed:

Music from Bensound.com and Zed (@itismezed)

https://soundcloud.com/kevinflynnretro

Edited by Zed

S02E03: Performance, UIs, the Keyboard, Oh My!

Tue, 23 Nov 2021 00:00:00 +0000

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In this episode Justin and Brian talk about this week’s software improvements coming to PINE64 devices, discuss the keyboard some more, and talk about the future of Mobile Linux.

Links:

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https://soundcloud.com/kevinflynnretro

Edited by Zed

S02E02: The big PP

Sat, 16 Oct 2021 00:00:00 +0000

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In this episode the PinePhone Pro is discussed in length, with other news mixed in. Listen towards the end for a in-depth discussion of the the PinePhone Pro!

S02E01: Season 2 Introductions

Fri, 17 Sep 2021 00:00:00 +0000

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The first episode of the new Pinetalk show with Brian and Justin! We go into the new structure for the show, such as the introduction of two monthly releases. We’re sure you have feedback for us, and we know there’s lots of room to improve! Stay tuned!

S01E13: 13th of July

Fri, 16 Jul 2021 00:00:00 +0000

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In Episode 13, Peter and Ezra discuss the PINE64 July Community Update and go through more Community Questions than ever before! There’s also something fun and it ends with a bang!

What have we been up to?

Ezra:

YouTube,
Odysee,
Elatronion.com,
Fan game: Televoid: Out Of The Loop,
Video: System 76 Pop!_OS 21.04 w/ COSMIC | Best Linux Distro!?

Peter:

App of the Episode: Image Roll

Flathub: Image Roll
GitHub: Image Roll

Community News

PINE64 July community update

Housekeeping: PINE64 development portal

PINE64 DevZone

PineTime

PineDio

Make sure to read the full update

PINE64: July Community Update: community developers portal or watch it:
Video by PizzaLovingNerd: Odysee, TilVids, YouTube

Community engagement 😀

Listener Questions

Status of Quartz64 Model B, see here.

RockPro64 upgrade and eDP status, see here.

China, Open Harmony OS and plans for PP Pro, see here.

OpenHarmony (GiTee)
FOSDEM 2021: OpenHarmony - more than an OS

Current state of PinePhone distributions, see here.

PINE64 docs: PinePhone Software Releases

Hypothetical Sxmo Distributions, see here.

Sxmo.org

Background of PINE64, see here.

Foss North Podcast: #34 with Lukasz Erecinski from Pine64

Stepping downs

Credits

Intro and Outro Music

Music by Bradley (PixelPaintbrush) Ames

Exclusive Intro/Outro written and edited by Ezra Hradecky

Cast

Ezra played by Ezra

Peter played by Peter

FAANG played by Peter

FAANG’s minion played by Peter

Score

Track	Artist	License
raising evil	Oleg Makarov	https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/3.0/
Cybernetic Rhythm	Michael-K	https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/3.0/
The Road Adventures	83Crutch	https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/3.0/
In Dark Triller	soundside (royalty free music)	https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/3.0/
Rejuvenation - Full Length	pinegroove	https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/3.0/

Audio Production

Thank you to NerdZoom Media for being PineTalk’s audio producers!

S01E12: Privacy and Security with RTP

Sun, 04 Jul 2021 00:00:00 +0000

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In the twelfth episode of PineTalk, Ezra and Peter are joined by RTP to talk privacy and security. They also discuss community news: Pineroot, InfiniTime 1.2.0, accelerated video playback on PinePhone and an example for a Lora communicator. The episode concludes with feedback regarding Signal Desktop on PinePhone and two hardware-centric questions.

What have we been up to lately?

Ezra:
- YouTube,
- Odysee
- Elatronion.com
- Fan game: Televoid: Out Of The Loop.
- Televoid series on YouTube
Peter:
- Blog post on GNU/Linux on Tablets
- App List

App of the Episode

KDE Itinerary

Interview with RTP

Right to Privacy is a content creator that focuses on privacy and security topics.

The one video listeners really should watch:
Securing SSH On Pinephone + Hydra Demo On Default Setup (Plus Fixes!) on
- YouTube,
- Odysee,
- PeerTube.
And here is where you can to follow RTPs work:
Blog,
YouTube,
Odysee,
PeerTube,
Fosstodon,
Twitter.

Thanks again to RTP for coming on!

Community News

pineroot

See pineroot

is a buildroot environment for PinePhone.
PineRouter (see also Twitter) which turns your PinePhone into an LTE Router appliance.
Follow the project on Twitter

Brian Daniels: Hardware Accelerated Video Decoding on the PinePhone

InfiniTime

InfiniTime 1.2.0

Lora

Lora communication: LORA Messenger in Nokia’s shell
GitHub Project

Community engagement 😀

Listener Feedback

undev wrote in about Signal Desktop Builder

Signal Desktop Builder

Listener Questions

New Questions

@jokeyrhyme@mastodon.social asked about Future revisions of PinePhone and PineBook/PineBook Pro.

@goldfinch@fosstodon.org asked about the hardware we would like to see from PINE64 in the future

Modular hardware

Mntmn
EOMA68

Feedback and Questions welcome!

Remember: This is a community podcast, so please leave feedback on what we should do better, get your suggestion’s in and feel free to ask questions!

Use #pinetalk or tweet at us @talkpine, toot at us @talkpine@fosstodon.org, send email to pinetalk@pine64.org and join our Discord!

Credits

Intro and Outro Music

Music by Bradley (PixelPaintbrush) Ames

Thank you to NerdZoom Media for being PineTalk’s audio producers!

S01E11: Lounging with Linux Lounge

Fri, 18 Jun 2021 00:00:00 +0000

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In this eleventh episode Ezra and Peter discuss the June Community Update and interview content creator Linux Lounge! They also discuss (your) community feedback and questions!

What have we been up to lately?

Ezra:
- is releasing a game!
  - It’s nearly done! It should be released June 22nd if no serious issues arise. Otherwise, shortly after.
  - The game is, of course, open source. So, you can make fun of my horrifying code.
  - It’s a mysterious adventure filled with a handful of minigames, a short story and minimal moon logic.
  - It’s called “Televoid: Out of The Loop” and is a fangame for a show I enjoy: Televoid, an online series staring Ian MacLeod on his YouTube Channel. To show our appreciation of this amazing series, some fans and I got together to make this game.
  - It’s pretty much consumed my life these past few weeks…
  - After the released, I might have some fun and see if I can’t port it to the pinephone, for the giggles. otherwise…
- I’ve also been back on the video making train!
  - YouTube,
  - Odysee.
Peter:
- wrote a bad blog post because of having had a PinePhone for a year,
- GloDroid video,
- has written the 50th installment of LinBits, the weekly update on all things Linux Phones in between recording and publication of this episode.

App of the Episode

Spot
Get it on Flathub!

Interview with Linux Lounge

Make sure to follow Linux Lounge on the following platforms:

Workflow:

Linux Lounge: How I Create Videos Using Linux and FOSS Software!

BTW: There’s a project that tries to recreate the Windows Phone Live Tile experience on the PinePhone: Retiled

Community News

PINE64: June Community Update sub-titled “new hardware and more on the way”

Full blog post
Video by PizzaLovingNerd
- YouTube,
- Odysee,
- TilVids.

Housekeeping

Getting started

Quartz64

PINE64 store: Quartz64
Docs: Quartz64

PinePhone: Keyboard accessory news

Go read Megi’s blog for more

PinePhone Software

Plasma Mobile’s update
MMS progress by Chris/kop316
- mmsd-tng

Pinecil

PINE64 store: Pinecil Preheater Hammerhead Tip

Community engagement 😀

Listener Feedback

Blort blort@tube.tchncs.de on TilVids

Listener Questions

Frater Michal" @MonsDraconis asked on Twitter

Any information on kde/gs connect for pinephone distributions?, see here

Try GNOME on Megi’s p-boot-demo image to try GSConnect
KDE Connect

@PitrusCitrus@mastodon.social asks

Question to the both of you @talkpine. What is a project you want to see on the pinephone that can be realistically done by a beginner programmer who’s looking to get their hands dirty and expand their skillset? Be it practical, cool or just plain fun, throw us some ideas! See here

We crowdsourced this question on Discord, Twitter and (most successfully) Fosstodon, and came up with the following (thanks again!)
- Roku Remote
  - rokugtk
- Nextcloud client
- Port GadgetBridge to Linux
  - Siglo
  - Amazfish
- Martijn Braam had four suggestions
- More general suggestions were also received
- Perhaps adding functionality to an existing application might be a good way to start?
- LVGL (a lightweight toolkit that could be used for a fast GUI)
  - Lup Yuen Lee: LVGL on PinePhone

Also, if this is not enough, you might want to have a look at the Mobian App Wishlist.

Feedback and Questions welcome!

Remember: This is a community podcast, so please leave feedback on what we should do better, get your suggestion’s in and feel free to ask questions!

Use #pinetalk or tweet at us @talkpine, toot at us @talkpine@fosstodon.org, send email to pinetalk@pine64.org and join our Discord!

Credits

Intro and Outro Music

Music by Bradley (PixelPaintbrush) Ames

Thank you to NerdZoom Media for being PineTalk’s audio producers!

S01E10: Man of Many Apps

Fri, 04 Jun 2021 00:00:00 +0000

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In the first 2-digit episode of PineTalk, Ezra and Peter are happy to interview Martijn Braam, whom you may know of his involvement with postmarketOS, the many apps he develops or his videos and blog posts.

They also present some homework and discuss community feedback and questions.

Special Intro

See credits at the bottom of this post.

What have we been up to lately?

Ezra:
- I’ve been working a lot on my point and click adventure game.
- I also have been taking some time to learn how to draw.
- More relevantly, I played a whole bunch with my PineCube!
- Check out what Ezra does on Elatronion.com, Odysee and YouTube!
Peter:
- Wrote that Modem Firmware install guide as promised, that mainly deals with avoiding Minicom,
- Moved his weekly updates to Wednesday for personal reasons,
- made a video about GloDroid. It’s mainly a little tutorial explaining how to do it.

But let’s get to it now and start with the

App of the Episode

Interview with Martijn Braam

Links about the things we talked about, in order of appearance:

Getting started with Linux

Knoppix
Getting involved with postmarketOS
Oliver Smith’s blog: postmarketOS: Aiming for a 10 year life-cycle for smartphones
postmarketOS blog: 100 days of postmarketOS
Getting started with the PinePhone
PINE64 docs: Project Anakin
PINE64 docs: PinePhone v1.0 - Dev
Martijn Braam: Putting together the PinePhone prototype
App Development
Martijn’s apps
How to help with postmarketOS development?
PinePhone issues on the postmarketOS issue tracker
postmarketOS Porting Guide
Upcoming PinePhone keyboard
Wikipedia: I²C
Martijn Braam: First look at the PinePhone Keyboard dev unit

Thank’s again to Martijn for coming on!

Follow Martijn’s work on:

Community News

PINE64: FemtoStar: taking aim for the stars
Megi’s blog: PinePHone kernel news

Community engagement 😀

Homework on PineCube (Ezra)

Things Ezra did:

Installing Armbian without a screen (sounds more impressive than it is)
- I simply downloaded the PineCube Armbian image.
- Flashed the image to an SD card.
- Plugged in the PineCube to power and ethernet and shabamalama! I was 99% done.
- An SSH server is installed by default on the image, so I simply had to find my PineCube’s IP, which I did using the following command
- nmap -sP 192.168.1.0/24
- And logged in using the default values of:
- user: root
- pass: 1234
Install media-ctl && ffmpeg
- media-ctl is a part of v4l-utils and is useful for configuring the camera.
- ffmpeg is… well, ffmpeg, must I really explain?

It’s what I use to take the video feed of the camera and stream it via RTMP to a RTMP server, which I setup next.

RTMP server
- I followed a tutorial to help me setup NGINX for RTMP streaming. It was simple enough once I wrapped my head around it. I never used NGINX or RTMP before, so it was quite the fun new experience. 🙂
Personal livestream of me cooking to my friends
- After getting everything setup, I though I’d actually have some fun with it, so I streamed myself making supper to my friends! 😛
- The camera seems much better than that of the PinePhone, the reason for this is lens.
I have a few projects in mind, I’ll definitly make a video about the PineCube. And, ofc, talk about it on the PineTalk when I get around to it.
- Automation using TensorFlow Lite for object recognition. (saving the past few minutes and few future minutes locally on the device) or something like that.
- Peter had the idea of doing a livestream on YT or some other video platform using the PineCube as a camera, could be fun for any Pine related livestream I may do in the future.

Homework regarding FM radio (Peter)

Last episode, we could not give a good answer to the question Deon Denis asked on Youtube: How about a FM radio back cover? So:

How do other devices implement this?
- Headset serves as antenna
- Sometimes implemented within the SoC (e.g. MediaTek MT6753)
- Sometimes within the Wifi/BT chip (e.g. Samsung Galaxy SII)
Do we have support for FM radio?
- the Realtek RTL 8723CS chip used for WiFi and Bluetooth in the PinePhone alledgedly supports receiving FM radio according to its announcement, but it’s nowhere to be found on the spec sheet.
- but: We don’t have a driver that would support this, and we don’t have the hardware for it.
Would the Pogopin i2c (i-squared-c bus (inter-integrated-circuit interface) offer enough bandwith for fm-radio on the PinePhone?
- bandwith is rather limited, but actual “hard numbers” information seems to be scarce
- it’s definitely enough for keyboards 😉
- (see here, or thermal cameras)
- back to topic:
  - There’s a tutorial for building an i2c fmradio accessory on circuitbread.com, but with this you would still have to figure out the audio side. Thankfully,
  - there are more also ready made products that have a headphone jack, e.g the Grove - I2C FM Receiver
  - → Looks like it is actually possible to do this!
Alternatives:
- PinePhone RTL SDR connected to USB
  - clunky (many cables)
  - likely requires external power source,
  - but: software exists, see e.g. rtl_fm_player
- also, easy: (Bluetooth) Headphones with FM Radio are a thing

Listener Feedback

@DarkeyVilkulak on Odysee wrote:

PinePhone"LoRA is not for sending images. Kids these days are really spoiled ;D What about simple text communication and long range mesh for simple communication. It can use some kind of low bandwidth encryption. There are several projects like Meshtastic about that."

Listener Questions

Sebastian asked via email

combability of the frameworks/distros

PinePhonePinePhoneIs there a way (or some projects that try) to run apps, that where written with one desktops framework, to run those on another desktop? Like running Lomiri apps on kde-mobile?

PinePhone Manjaro Lomiri Dev Packages
Quickddit, AUR
Dylan van Assche’s Convergence Components
somewhat relevant LINMOB.net post about running Plasma Mobile apps on Phosh

Additionally, when I see things right, quite some apps aren’t packaged for every (major) PinePhone distro (even though they use the same framework). So it would be even great, to use AUR on mobian (also it sounds somewhat strange). I just mean, it would be great, when software for a specific need, wouldn’t have to be written over and over again.

Different starting points

Where are good starting points (and where to find them) that would help different parts of the ecosystem?

There is a lot
file bug reports (or help triangulating those)
help with documentation
help with metadata/other little things: If there’s a project you like a lot, but it does not have a desktop file or icon, maybe help with that. Or contribute AppStream Metadata via pull request. Pick what you think is up your alley, the worst thing that can happen is that your pull or merge request is being declined.
helping other users: Forums, chat, …
like Martijn said in our interview: Pick something (maybe there’s a rather simple app that you lack) and get started with that. Pick a framework, pick a language, and dive in. Eventually, you might come up with something, and even if it’s objectively not very good, you will have learned something, and if you keep going, you might eventually get decent at it.

Feedback and Questions welcome!

Remember: This is a community podcast, so please leave feedback on what we should do better, get your suggestion’s in and feel free to ask questions!

Use #pinetalk or tweet at us @talkpine, toot at us @talkpine@fosstodon.org, send email to pinetalk@pine64.org and join our Discord!

Credits:

Intro and Outro Music

Music by Bradley (PixelPaintbrush) Ames

Thank you to NerdZoom Media for being PineTalk’s audio producers!

Special Intro credits

Script & Editing: Ezra

Cast

Ezra as himself
Peter as Faang and his minion.

Audio

Atmosphere

Calm Forest Birds BurghRecords - Sonny Fascia

Music

Aquarium by Kevin MacLeod, License Leaving Home by Kevin MacLeod, License Waltz of Treachery by Kevin MacLeod, License

S01E09: Eventful Number 9

Fri, 21 May 2021 00:00:00 +0000

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In this episode nine Peter and Ezra discuss two conferences that happened recently, the May PINE64 Community Update and some more community news. They also answer four community questions and ask kindly for more!

What have we been up to lately?

Ezra is still working on his point and click adventure game and attended the Linux App Summit.
- Check out what Ezra does on Elatronion.com, Odysee and YouTube!
Peter was quite busy with family matters, and only managed to write
- LinBits 45: Weekly Linux Phone news / media roundup (week 19),
- LINMOBapps: Additions in March and April 2021 and future plans.

App of the Episode

Agregore Browser by Ranger Mauve
- GitHub
- Dat Conference talk

Topics:

Linux App Summit

Thank you to NerdZoom Media for being our audio producers! Full schedule
YouTube channel
Panel discussion: Building International Software Communities by Aniqa Khokhar et al.
- Video recording
Forcing Hardware Vendors to care about Linux since 2015 by Richard Hughes
- Slides
- Video recording
Adaptive Apps: The Future Is Now by Tobias Bernard
- Slides
- Video recording
Funding Krita by Halla Rempt
- Slides
- Video recording

AlpineConf 2021

Recordings:

We have links to the video recordings, the Big Blue Button room recordings (which contain the Q&As) and the conference itself in the shownotes.

PINE64 Community Update May

PINE64 Community Update May: Connection established

Video by PizzaLovingNerd:
- Tilvids
- YouTube
- Odysee

PineTime

Siglo 0.8.0 was released shortly before our recording, so some of these pull requests have been merged and released, yay!

PinePhone

See also: In Linux Smartphones we trust
Martijn Braam: First look at the PinePhone Keyboard dev unit

PineBook Pro

Fedora
Pinebook Pro: production placed on halt due to component shortages; will keep you updated. If you want a Pinebook Pro, now is the time to pick one up.

LoraWAN

PINE64 Pinedio
Partnership with RAK Wireless: Let’s make MiRAKles happen

Our Opinions On LoRaWAN

Custom Firmware tryout progress?

Minicom instructions at bloggerbust.ca
Release page of Biktorgj’s project
Megi’s website on Unlocking ADB access
Peter wanted to do a good job and thus did not finish is blog post on the topic yet, but it should be on linmob.net before the next episode lands

Community engagement 😀

Listener Questions

Blort asked on Tilvids

When are we going to hear/see more about the PineCube?

Sadly no, but Ezra commits to reporting about his successes and failures in the next episode!

Rice Cake asked on YouTube

Have you guys thought about verified boot camp n pinephone? 🙂

Content to read on the topic: Protecting Linux devices with verified boot, from ROM to Userspace.

If you have experimented with this on the PinePhone, please get in touch!

iNTRa asked on YouTube

Do either of you have your own channels that you post on?

Ezra writes on Elatronion.com, and publishes videos on Odysee or YouTube.

Peter writes on linmob.net and publishes Video Odysee, Peertube and YouTube.

Deon Denis asked on Youtube

How about a FM radio back cover?

Apologies for saying I-two-C, it’s I-square-C. We don’t really know beyond this: RTP’s SDR Experiments

Again: If you know more about this, please tell us about it!

Feedback and Questions welcome!

Remember: This is a community podcast, so please leave feedback on what we should do better, get your suggestion’s in and feel free to ask questions!

Use #pinetalk or tweet at us @talkpine, toot at us @talkpine@fosstodon.org, send email to pinetalk@pine64.org and join our Discord!

Thank you to NerdZoom Media for being our audio producers!

S01E08: After √64 (O’Clock)

Sat, 08 May 2021 00:00:00 +0000

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In the eighth episode of PineTalk, Ezra and Peter discuss news on the PinePhone keyboard accessory, InfiniTime 1.0, Plasma Mobile progress, Megapixels 1.0 and answer three community questions. They also share their minty-fresh first impressions of Pine-y wrist-wear.

The third and final community quote of the day is by Matt Burger @matthewburger “We’re definitely hitting the same high notes; we’re just not singing the same song.”

Thank you Matt for sending it in!

What have we been up to lately?

Ezra: is still working on his point and click adventure game:
Has received a PineTime and will definitely make some videos for his my YouTube channel Elatronion (also available on Odysee). Make sure to like comment and subscribe!
Peter:
- LINMOB.net is now running with Zola, a static site generator written in Rust.
- Now working on a replacement for LINMOBapps, read this blog post for more information on that.

Topics

News

Lukasz posted to the Forums about the upcoming PinePhone keyboard

[PinePhone Keyboard update April 24/04]
InfiniTime 1.0
1pack seeled PineTime was available in store, now sold out until June

Plasma Mobile reports progress

Plasma Mobile: More Applications and an Improved Homescreen
also, since then: Podcast client called “Kasts” with a k!
It was being implemented a feature of Alligator, the feed reading app, but was then branched out. It’s awesome.

Megapixels 1.0.1: GTK4, accelerated view finder

Release notes:
- 1.0.1,
- 1.0.0.
Linux Smartphones: Megapixels 1.0 released, bringing hardware accelerated graphics to the camera app for Linux phones

First impressions with PineTime

InfiniTime, default OS on PineTime developed by JF
Siglo
Amazfish, originally a Sailfish OS app ported over to Kirigami that works with many smartwatches
WASP-OS
- WASP-OS Installation Guide
- wasp-companion is a thing, but the flatpak does not build as a dependency can’t be resolved) and struggles with wasptool, that uses components that no longer come with bluez on Arch Linux. (There is, however, an Android companion app (wasp-os companion for Android that seems to be a Flutter app, so it might be possible to bring over to the PinePhone.)
Casio style watch face for InfiniTime - Thanks Electr0lyte!
Off-topic: Fluffychat 0.3.0 (a Matrix client) runs on the PinePhone now.

Community engagement 😀

Listener Questions

sleep dealer Hey @talkpine do any of the pinephone OS offerings have a voice keyboard or mycroft type assistant? #askpinetalk
Mycroft
Mycroft GUI:
- Mycroft Plasma Mobile Applet
- Peter’s video with a Mycroft GUI If you, dear listener, have played with speech recognition or assitant features, please get in touch!
Wikipedia: Speech recognition software for Linux
@Epicanis Would a hypothetical new redesigned “pinetab2” with more easily-sourced parts be more feasible than chasing unavailable parts for the current pinetab?
eshep asked via email about NixOS on the PinePhone
- NixOS Mobile
- If you tried this, please get in touch!

Final words

How Peter noticed that PineTalk is now listed on GPodder

Feedback welcome!

Remember: This is a community podcast, so please leave feedback on what we should do better, get your suggestion’s in and feel free to ask questions!

BTW, what do you think about a “App of the Episode” segment?

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S01E07: My name is 64 … PINE64

Fri, 23 Apr 2021 00:00:00 +0000

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In the seventh episode of PineTalk, the special treat is placed at the end of the movie episode: An interview with Danct12, creator of a the Arch Linux ARM Spin for PinePhone and PineTab. Before that, Ezra and Peter discuss Feedback, two aspects of the PINE64 April Community Update, and get two answer four (!) PinePhone centric listener questions as the Beta Edition is starting to arrive in peoples hands.

Introduction

The community quote of the day today is by Shakespeare “An SSL error has occurred and a secure connection to the server cannot be made.” Biorent Lape send it in

What have they been up to lately?

Ezra:
- played Sulphur Nimbus: Hel’s Elixir
- working on his point and click adventure game
- checkout his projects on YouTube, itch.io and Game Jolt.
Peter:
- played with Zola for the relaunch of linmob.net
- after that he’ll work on LINMOBapps.frama.io.
- he played with his PineCube

Topics

Feedback

Just Another Kiwi Guy Feeback
Thanks to everybody else for chiming in!

(Community News) News

PINE64: April community update
- Linux App Summit
- PinePhone accessories
Patches submitted to mainline Linux to support Rockchip’s brand new RK3566 & RK3568 SoCs

Community engagement 😀

Listener Questions

@leimon asks: What would be your top three recommendations of which OS to run on it and why?
- PINE64 docs: PinePhone Software Releases
Anonymous (who prefers to remain private) asked via email:
- Is the PinePhone convergence bar meant to be used only when the phone is fully charged and without the bar plugged into a power source? Or is it okay to plug the convergence bar into a power source when the phone is docked?
What is the best way to back up the PinePhone Beta?
Follow up question, is PinePhone convergence okay for email/note taking or too much lag?

Interview

Before we sat down to record this, Peter talked to Danct12, creator of DanctNIX/Huong Tram Linux, an Arch Linux ARM based distribution for the PinePhone and PineTab.

Feedback welcome!

Remember: This is a community podcast, so please leave feedback on what we should do better, get your suggestion’s in and feel free to ask questions! And get your “Community quote of the day” in!

Use #pinetalk or tweet at us @talkpine, toot at us @talkpine@fosstodon.org, send email to pinetalk@pine64.org and join our Discord!

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S01E06: Pine for You

Sat, 10 Apr 2021 00:00:00 +0000

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In this sixth episode, Ezra and Peter talk about the next generation ARM architecture, good news around GTK4 and postmarketOS plus PINE64 community news. They also discuss a listener question (more required!) and “Do you want Linux Phones?”

The community quote of the day

“Burning out is only the first step to greatness” by Camden Bruce (@EnderNightLord)

News

Industry news

ArsTechnica: Arm Announces Armv9 Architecture: SVE2, Security, and the Next Decade

Wider Community news

GTK 4.2.0 and libadwaita
- GTK Development Blog: GTK 4.2.0.
- tweets showing off the new renderer working on the PinePhone
Adrien Plazas: Introducing libadwaita
- LINMOBapps App List
postmarketOS: Second Beta Release: v21.03
- Sxmo 1.4.0 release notes
- postmarketOS podcast

PINE64 Community News

PINE64: Help us help others
PINE64: The Dual-Screen Pinebook Pro
- Video by Category5 Technology TV
recentic.net: This Blog is now hosted on a GPS/LTE modem
- Hacker News thread

Do you want Linux Phones?

Martijn Braam: Do you really want Linux phones

Community engagement 😀

April Fools

We asked for your favourite April fooleries and you replied:

Listener Questions

@OddHouseGames asks: Is there any chance of the @signalapp coming to the PinePhone?
Also, we’ve run out of questions :'(

Feedback welcome!

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S01E05: Marching On

Fri, 26 Mar 2021 00:00:00 +0000

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In the fifth episode of PineTalk, Ezra and Peter discuss a few aspects of the latest Community Update, PineCube news, the component shortage and answer a few of your questions. BTW: Keep getting them in!

What have we been up to lately?

Ezra recently finished working on the codebase of a project: It’s a fan game, written in C from the engine to the game.
Peter has re-installed his laptop with pre-release Fedora 34 Workstation and have been enjoying GNOME 40 since. Also, the LINMOBapps Game list is maintained again, thanks to Moxvallix for taking it on!

Community News

March Update

PINE64 March Update
- PinePhone Beta Edition
- PineBook Pro availability (only ANSI keyboards)
  - Is it possible to switch keyboards later on? Yes: See e.g. this video.
- PineTime (something we are both yet to receive)
  - New bootloader
  - InfiniTime update:
    - InfiniTime 0.14 “Green Avocado” (actually, they have released 0.15.0 “Yellow Banana” in the meantime!)
    - LVGL (LVGL post by LEE Lup Yuen)
  - WaspOS 0.4 release
  - More links
    - GadgetBridge
    - Amazfish
    - Wikipedia: Demoscene

PineCube as a Web Cam

Chris McGee has been enabling the PineCube for use as a web cam and shared his findings on the PINE64 doc page

Component Shortage

Component shortage (requested by danct12 and thanosthetankengine in discord)
- Further reading:
- Ars Technica: A silicon chip shortage is causing automakers to idle their factories
- Bloomberg: Chip Shortage Spirals Beyond Cars to Phones and Consoles
- Reuters: Qualcomm struggles to meet chip demand as shortage spreads to phones: sources
- Recommendations for PineTab content:
  - Linux Lounge: Odysee, PeerTube, YouTube
  - Privacy and Tech Tips: Odysee, YouTube

Peter talks about his ROCKPro64

Listener Questions

Anders asks whether the development of the PinePhone or any other Linux Phone will actually ever be finished, or like so many other open software things be stuck in an endless loop of development?
- xnux.eu: Some PinePhone updates
Danny Medina asks about PineBook Pro upgradability:
- Upgradable ARM laptop: MNT Reform
- CNX Software: Rockchip RK3588 revealed

Feedback welcome!

Remember: This is a community podcast, so please leave feedback on what we should do better, get your suggestion’s in and feel free to ask questions! And get your “Community quote of the day” in!

Use #pinetalk or tweet at us @talkpine, toot at us @talkpine@fosstodon.org, send email to pinetalk@pine64.org and join our Discord!

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S01E04: GPU-o-Rama

Fri, 12 Mar 2021 00:00:00 +0000

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In the fourth episode of PineTalk, Ezra and Peter discuss some industry and community news, go through your favourite answers to their question and answer a few of your questions, some of them (spoiler!) GPU related.

What have we been up to lately?

Ezra: Has been contemplating new videos that will appear on his YouTube and Odysee channels or his website: elatronion.com.
Peter created a video about Sailfish OS 4.0.1.48, which you can find on YouTube, PeerTube and Odysee.

(Community) News

Matrix video calling on the PinePhone

LinuxSmartphones: Now you can make video calls on a PinePhone (but it’s very much a work in progress)
- Original story: Pinephone: Breakthrou on Fedora Pinephones

MIPS joins RISC-V

EEjournal.com: Wait, What? MIPS Becomes RISC-V
- Related Hacker News thread
- Wikipedia: MIPS architecture
- Wikipedia: Loongson

Connecting PineCone to a LoRaWAN transceiver

LEE Lup Yuen: Connect PineCone to LoRaWan transceiver
- Wikipedia: LoRaWAN

Community engagement 😀

A question for the Community

We asked on Twitter: What device would you like to see @thepine64 make?

What device would you like to see @thepine64 make?

— PineTalkPodcast (@TalkPine) March 7, 2021

and many of you answered. Thank you!

Community Questions for us

Will you guys ever talk about the PineTime?
Just listened to the intro and was wondering if you are going to talk about the Pinebook Pro and various operating system such as twister is?
Has the RISCV SBC an open source GPU?
- CNX-software story about the Xuan Tie C906
Would it be practical for Pine64 to make a FOSS GPU for the desktop, or a higher power GPU for your next laptop?
- Embedded.com: Open source GPU builds on RISC-V
  - LibreSoC: Well, kind of … a dedicated GPU is not our main scope

Feedback welcome!

Remember: This is a community podcast, so please leave feedback on what we should do better, get your suggestion’s in and feel free to ask questions!

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S01E03: Quartzy Keyboards

Fri, 26 Feb 2021 00:00:00 +0000

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In the third episode of the PineTalk, Ezra and Peter discuss the PINE64 February Community Update and answer community questions about Sxmo, RISC-V, and ARM Workstations.

In the third episode of PineTalk, Ezra and Peter discuss the PINE64 February Community Update and answer community questions about Sxmo, RISC-V, and ARM Workstations.

What have we been up to lately?

Ezra:
- has a new personal website: elatronion.com
Peter:
- made a video on Manjaro Daily Dev builds: PeerTube, Odysee, YouTube,
- worked on LINMOBapps (for reference: KDE Apps have working appstream:// links)

Topics

PINE64 Community News

February Community Update
- Read it in its full beauty,
- or watch PizzaLovingNerds’ great video on Odysee, Tilvids, or YouTube.
Quartz64: (Rockchip RK3566, up to 8GB RAM, lots of options to connect storage, displays and other hardware)
- runs really cool and faster than the PINE A64 (Allwinner A64) and ROCK64 (Rockchip RK3328) it’s eventually superseding
- MakeUseOf: Pine64 Announces a Native E-ink Single Board Computer
RISC-V SBC with two RISC-V System-on-a-Chip (for less than 15 USD)
- Allwinner XuanTie C906-based SBC: solid I/O, including USB 2.0 and Gigabit Ethernet, no 3D accelerator = entry-level Linux-capable RISC-V platform
  - CNX Software: XuanTie C906 based Allwinner RISC-V processor to power $12+ Linux SBC’s
  - CNX Software: RISC-V Bases and Extensions Explained.
- 2nd SoC for networking: Bouffalo BL602 WiFi-BLE
  - LEE Lup Yuen: The RISC-V BL602 Book
PinePhone
- Keyboard accessory (includes 6000 mAh battery)
- Manjaro Plasma Mobile as new default OS for the post-Community Edition PinePhone.

Your feedback and questions:

Logenkain: What do you think about Sxmo?
- Related: Linux Smartphones: Sxmo 1.3.0 brings usability, performance improvements to this simple, geeky Linux phone UI.
Mark: How far off is a #riscv PinePhone? 😉
- Related: Android on RISC-V
Liam: What do you think, should PINE64 start making workstations?
- Avantec Workstations
- SolidRun HoneyComb LX2 Workstation
- Risc-V Desktop: SiFive: HiFive Unmatched

Remember: This is a community podcast, we need your questions, ideas to make this work! Also, please leave feedback on what we should do better!

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S01E02: New Accessories and UBports with Dalton Durst

Fri, 12 Feb 2021 00:00:00 +0000

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In the second episode of the PineTalk Ezra and Peter talk about to Dalton Durst, Development Manager at UBports, about Ubuntu Touch in general and on the PinePhone more specifically. They also discuss the announcment of the ‘End of Community Editions’ and answer awesome community questions.

What have we been up to lately?

Ezra:
- Elatronion: YouTube, Odysee
- Usergames (YouTube)
Peter:
- LINMOBapps: https://linmobapps.frama.io
- Peter’s blog: https://linmob.net

Topics

Interview with Dalton Durst (Development manager at UBports)

Dalton Durst is the Development Manager of the UBports project, which picked up Ubuntu Touch when Canonical decided to discontinue it.
Context: Canonicals announcement to discontinue Unity 8 development (and thus Ubuntu for Devices/Ubuntu Touch)
PinePhone Prototypes and related hardware:
How to help:
- Translations: https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/
- Contribution Section: https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/contribute/index.html
How can people get in touch:
- @UTonPine Telegram
- See also “Get help” section on the PinePhone device page

PINE64 Community News

PINE64: The End of Community Editions
LinuxSmartphones: PinePhone Modem Firmware news

New Products (if any)

Your feedback and questions

Due to time contraints, we could only tackle a few of your questions - please keep them coming. We might answer your question in the next episode!

Orli on the future of Linux Phones
Odineee: On the impact of NVidia’s purchase of ARM on PINE64 and about future Risc-V products

The Podcast is in progress of being listed in all the directories you suggested - unfortunately it’s really hard to get that done with some directories, which is why we can’t report full success yet.

This episode also features chapter markers, a feature that allows you to skip topics you are not that interested in.

Remember: This is a community podcast, so please leave feedback on what we should do better, get your suggestion’s in and feel free to ask questions!

You can join the Discord channel “Pinetalk-Podcast” on PINE64’s discord, you can send us an email at pinetalk@pine64.org and tweet at us, we’re @talkpine.

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S01E01: Introduction

Wed, 27 Jan 2021 00:00:00 +0000

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In this introductory episode of the PineTalk, Ezra and Peter talk about how they got started with computers, PINE64 and FOSS in general.

Which PINE64 devices are most interesting to the hosts, how did the PinePhone grab their attention and what do they think about the upcoming Quartz64 SBC?

The PineTalk podcast on PINE64

S02E09: Gaming on Pine64 is a Thing

S02E08: So Porky Is Now a Developer...

S02E07: Pine in a field, on a mountain, over a river

S02E06: The Community has been ACTIVE!

S02E05: Talk about a dense 15 minutes

S02E04: Behind the curtains

S02E03: Performance, UIs, the Keyboard, Oh My!

S02E02: The big PP

S02E01: Season 2 Introductions

S01E13: 13th of July

What have we been up to?

App of the Episode: Image Roll

Community News

PINE64 July community update

Housekeeping: PINE64 development portal

PineTime

PinePhone: Hardware

PinePhone: Software

Quartz64!

PineDio

Community engagement 😀

Listener Questions

Stepping downs

More Feedback and Questions welcome!

Credits

Intro and Outro Music

Exclusive Intro/Outro written and edited by Ezra Hradecky

Cast

Score

Audio Production

S01E12: Privacy and Security with RTP

What have we been up to lately?

App of the Episode

Interview with RTP

Community News

pineroot

Brian Daniels: Hardware Accelerated Video Decoding on the PinePhone

InfiniTime

Lora

Community engagement 😀

Listener Feedback

Listener Questions

Credits

Intro and Outro Music

S01E11: Lounging with Linux Lounge

What have we been up to lately?

App of the Episode

Interview with Linux Lounge

Community News

PINE64: June Community Update sub-titled “new hardware and more on the way”

Housekeeping

Quartz64

PinePhone: Keyboard accessory news

PinePhone Software

Pinecil

Community engagement 😀

Listener Feedback

Listener Questions

Frater Michal" @MonsDraconis asked on Twitter

@PitrusCitrus@mastodon.social asks

Credits

Intro and Outro Music

S01E10: Man of Many Apps

Special Intro

What have we been up to lately?

App of the Episode

Interview with Martijn Braam

Community News

Community engagement 😀

Homework on PineCube (Ezra)

Homework regarding FM radio (Peter)

Listener Feedback

@DarkeyVilkulak on Odysee wrote:

Listener Questions

Sebastian asked via email

Feedback and Questions welcome!

Credits:

Intro and Outro Music

Special Intro credits